[jamesbond007]

Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to use some Isel Stepper Controllers and Stepper Motors with Mach3, I have a new build I'm doing and i'm planning to use mach3 so I need some info on how to connect these to Mach3 using them as a Step/Dir controller.
I took these from another machine and I think (from Isel's catalog) that they´re HL1100M313122 C-Series Stepper controller and the motors are 8 wire so I wnat to connect them Bipollar parallel or series depending on the controller capabilities.

I know I can use these with Gecko Drives also maybe a g540 which I'm familiar with, but I want to save myself a couple hundred bucks using what I've already have.

Any ideas?

Thanks

[ger21]

Do you have a pic that shows the labels clearly on the green plug?

[jamesbond007]

Here is one... I have three of these drivers... Would be great If I can use them, as they have their own power supply I think.

Thanks for your reply...

[Montabelli]

it should work, the question is will the drive microstep? if not you may be far better off with an alternate control depending on what your usage is. if you have a lot of curves you need to be a bit concerned about harmonics with some of the old stepper systems. I would also suggest a smoothstepper for your system with mach 3 and also using the now unsupported tempest planner.

[jamesbond007]

you're right Montabelli, thanks a lot for your comment, I did'n have that in mind, they're probably old controllers that don't have microstep, I want them for a small tabletop router that I'm building, If I can get the documentation for the wiring and configuration, then I'll be sure to try them out as they are, if they don't work I'll just buy a G540 (I already have one in another machine) nad that will work with the same steppers I have now.

But just for the fun in it, I still want to try these out... I'm on the phone with Techno, they should have some Pdf's with the info.

I apreciate your input on this project I have.


Thanks again

[chris_techno]

Who are you speaking with here? I was just doing some investigation because I saw this post I may be able to assist you on these forums if you don't wish to wait on the phone.

What type of connector do you have coming out of the stepper motor. I can get you a pin-out and a potential wiring scheme into the mach controller.

If you could take a picture of your connector type that would help!

Thanks,
Chris @Techno Inc.

[jamesbond007]

Hi, I was speaking with bob Cardone, but he sent me a manual for all the C-Series controllers and the other motion controller the one that controls the drivers I think is named 4.0 and 5.0 controller card, but that is for standalone applications doesn't it? its an Wiring and ASCII rpograming for IT116G, C10, C116 & C142, but there is no example on how to connect it to a External Controller for example MAch3. The motors have a DB-9 connector already wired to the controller, I would greatly apperciate a wiring example from the Mach Controller (parallel port output from the PC) to the C-Series controller, the motors are already wired somehow to the controller we might need to change that also.

Thanks again.

[chris_techno]

That's great, Bob is pretty much our stepper tech here. I'm working in mostly the servo world but I do have access to these resources also;

I can't speak for a wiring diagram on the mach3 controller side but I can give you the pin outs for those motors.

If they're wired directly to the controller it may just be a matter of cutting the cable, using a multimeter to find out which wire color corresponds to which Pin on the DB-9 end (just to double check) then following the wiring schematic to put them into the controller box.

Basically, using isel's wire spec and mach3's wire spec and matching everything up wire to wire. The language used is different different but I can help you with that also.

This is the Pin-Out Provided by isel:


Using that you can potentially match up to your controller however looking at your image of the mach3 the language used is very different so you may have to consult their documentation for explanations of their pin descriptions printed on the unit itself.

The isel steppers are super simple units so I'm sure that mach3's multitude of pins are just for compatibility with a wide range of systems. All the motors use are 1/2/3/4 and for a Z-Axis with a brake also 6/8. The others, 5/7/9, are for limit switch operation which you'll have to wire to mach3's specs. 5/7/9 you can just bypass and wire your own limit switch system if you prefer. The motor doesn't use them (internally).

[jamesbond007]

Thanks Chris for your reply, I have no problem connecting the steppers, the problem is with the Stepper Controller or Stepper Driver, I need to know how this C-Series controllers can receive the signal from the parallel port output from the PC with the Mach3 Controller Software. here is a picture of the front of the controller, there you see many connections, and inside the controller there are some jumpers that will probably need to be configured too, the problem I have is that I haven't been able to get info and documents about how these C-Series 110V controllers wire up.

Can you help me?

Thanks.

[chris_techno]

I see just send me a pic of the jumper positions/labels and I'll get some more information for you.

[jamesbond007]

Hi Chris, here are the pics of one Stepper Controller, there is no Labels on the aluminium case so I took it apart and there is some numbers in the back of the PCB behind the toroidal transformer, on the other side there is a set of jumper that I imagine are for selecting diferent options, these and the green connector that I posted yesterday are the ones that I need the pinout to.

Thanks again for your support

[chris_techno]

This may take some digging on my end but I'll see what I can come up with. Thanks for the pics!

[Montabelli]

1) look arround on the web and see if you can fir tne a manual on this controller,
2) CHECK IN THE mach3 area and see if any one has used any of these controllers
3) hook up the motor and get some responses you will probably need to apply 5v to the enable pin and the dir pin should be self explanatory, the clk and clk en may be your pulse pins. if you can sort the pin functions out you can probably make it work

[jamesbond007]

Hi, The guys from Techno forgot about my problem, I haven't get any information regarding how to connect this to a Sted/dir signal from my parallel port using mach3, will try today what Montabelli says, a basic trial and error procedure to check if I get anything moving.

I have other projects going on that's why I left this behind, but the machine is already built its just a matter of getting the electronics to work, If no info is available I'll just buy a Gecko frive instead.

[chris_techno]

We haven't forgotten about your problem, it's just assistance with products like the mach3 which we don't produce or sell is limited from us.

If you contact Bob Cardone at 516-328-3970 x414 he has probably the most experience with the stepper machines here so he may be able to provide further help but unfortunately we'll have no documentation or ability to assist with controllers we don't manufacture.

Give him a call and see if he can help.