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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdell42 View Post
    Very slick case.. Interested in where you got that.
    It is a standard Nema case he got off of e-bay

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    Thanks.. I was looking for a similar case with buttons and sub panel done. Still not found a good site for "reasonably" priced Nema 4 cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdell42 View Post
    Very slick case.. Interested in where you got that.
    Standard metal nema 4/12 enclosure from ebay brand new $89. Being both sealed and metal is recommended especially with larger power supplies and geckos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdell42 View Post
    Thanks.. I was looking for a similar case with buttons and sub panel done. Still not found a good site for "reasonably" priced Nema 4 cases.
    Check ebay, and it helps to get a case with a removable back plate as well as a removable bottom plate. That way you can drill all your holes in the drill press easily and flat. The door, well you have one shot I suppose . Step drills come in handy :rainfro:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudioG View Post
    Not as carry-on, but a luggage.

    I've just looked back at the ebay listing for the 8020 and noticed each piece weighs 16 pounds, so it's probably too heavy anyway.

    Looks like I'll have to wait for the local pricing, which I can guarantee will be a lot more than the $50 to $70 you guys pay over there.

    Time to move to the USA!

    Cheers,

    Claudio
    Hey Claudio,

    Another option in OZ is Maytec, much the same as the 8020 and minitec. Don't have any idea about comparative price though.

    --Scott

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    Thanks for the tips Scott.

    Actually I got my quote back from 80/20 Australia and the main extrusions are about AU$125 (US$110) each plus about AU$35 shipping for 3 of them and the 125 t-nuts. So total for the lot inc shipping is AU$475 (US$420). I must admit a bit less than what I was expecting, but more than I had hoped for

    Above prices are ex GST

    Cheers,

    Claudio
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    Hi BP092, Im very much thinking of building the hybred, what I was wondering is, you say you put about $1000.00 into the drives and motors, you dont say how big your motors are, I was looking at a web site but cant remeber which, but any way they had a 4 axis gecko drive with 4 nema 34 750 oz steppers with extra things like estop,limit switches and a shuttle controler for $2500.00 Joe had said you paid around $2500.00 for your whole machine, Can you tell me what you excpect to get out of your system. speed and torque and such.Thank you for your time and cant wait to see the rest of your build. Graham

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    Graham, I posted a complete bill of materials in the hybrid private forum for the members there, but went with hobbycnc 305oz/in unipolar motors (4) with the 4 gecko 203vs. My total cost ended up being around $1500 said and done. Machine was easily built for under $2k. So if I had to estimate off the top of my head I would honestly say that I built this machine and controller/electronics for less than $3,500. Again though it is totally do-able to do a regular cnc controller like hobbycnc's and spend significantly less. What I did is pretty high up there. It will provide performance but only if it is something you surely think you see a return on. For example if you are doing this for small hobby stuff, a sign every week or so it's not really worth it unless you have the money to spend. I plan to run the 4x4 hard and get a quick return with just using the machine.

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    Thanks BP for the reply, $3500.00 aint bad considering you can build 3 hybreds to the cost of 1 4x4 shopbot. This is for buisness so it will be worked hard, My goal is to build 3 or 4 of these machines , not all at once though, Do you tihnk the 305 oz/in are enough for this if your working them hard? Graham

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    the 305oz/in are uni-polar so if you run them in bi-polar like the geckos do they become 425oz/in motors.

    Joe

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    Hey Joe, I have the 425's now, Is that what you are using in your video's, What are the acceleration settings you have on those motors on your hybred, Why im asking is this is a big key in relief carving, at least thats what im finding anyway. I use cut 3d to do my gcode and it would estimate 2 hrs to do a carving but in reality its more like 3hrs and thats because of acceleration. Graham

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    I used accel. of 15.....

    yes 425oz/in in video's with the hobby cnc pro kit.

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    Here's a short video jogging around at 300IPM. I can jog at 400 IPM and more but plan to run this machine max at 200 IPM cutting 150ipm strong like Joe to not have to babysit it. It runs very strong and smooth, I'm very happy with the results. Should be cutting the dust shoe by midweek.

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=679527727116618111&hl=en"]4x4 Hybrid CNC Router[/ame]

    Let me know what you guys think.

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    WOW that looks friggen great, very nice machine, Cant wait to get the plans and start mine. Graham

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    Brian,
    Very nice.

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    Hey bp, That is a 4x4 machine right? It looks much bigger than 4x4. Bet your pretty happy with the performance, seems to run very smooth. What speed would you get when jogging both x&y at the same time, Around 600imp I bet.Ill be getting my plans soon.cant wait to see you cut somthing with it. Graham
    Oh ps ive watched the video about 20 times now

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    please post more pictures...

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    Here's another video cutting 1/2" cast acrylic with a 1/4" oflute upspiral at 100IPM cutting and .05" per pass. Slow and steady but the cut quality was impeccable and worth it. Cast is a very hard material, but machines really well. For the money $$ (50% more than extruded) you get a much better end product. Thanks Joe and Ernie for the file.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHHTX6f8e3Y

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    90 views and no responses to the video lol, oh well guess there are a lot of lurkers here...

    Heres the vac plate with its skirt on, double layered offset cuts. I need to trim it about 1"-2" its too long but better to start big . Seems to work well with suction, will mill some parts tomorrow and really test it out. No screws yet but will add them, just double stick carpet tape and its holding considerably well. 8-)


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    I didn't notice the link to the video.

    You say you get a much better end product for 50% more. Are you just talking about quality of cut? Seems like it's not needed for this application.
    Gerry

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