504,353 active members
4,037 visitors online
Register for free
Login
IndustryArena Forum > MetalWorking Machines > Okuma > Many chips specification for Multus
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    285

    Many chips specification for Multus

    Hi

    What is the meaning of Many chips spec for Multus machines?
    and what is the difference between MANY CHIPS TOOL , MANY CHIPS 4, MANY CHIPS 8 and MANY CHIPS 12 ?
    Which spec should I buy if I want to use triple axial holder?
    Thanks.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	holder.png 
Views:	0 
Size:	351.1 KB 
ID:	416706
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    2794

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    hi kurmay, i don't have a multus, but isn't there an orientation g-code ? or is it possible to change the encoder origin, or some zero shift, from code ? there should be a parameter for that, and maybe you can acces it from code, so to avoid the special function / kindly
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    285

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    Can anyone share program samples for multi edge cutting tools?
    Thanks
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    4

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    Kurmay, I cant yet but as soon as I get the option for multiple cutting edges I will.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by kurmay View Post
    Can anyone share program samples for multi edge cutting tools?
    Thanks
    I have the same triple holder but haven't registered it into the tool library yet... However, I do have a twin 80/55 tool that I use daily and it rocks! To properly register it so that it works with cas is a little tricky but doable. Instead of tool register, choose the button right next to it that says MCHP-TL register. Getting the models lined up and positioned correctly takes some playing with. I had to input and register both tools separately and choose their orientation based off this pic I'm attaching. To call up the 80 degree rougher I type TD=07030101 M323 and the 55 finisher is TD=01030101 M323. First 2 numbers are tool edge position, next 2 are turret position, then last 4 are actual tool number. So my edge positions for the twin tool are 1 and 7

  6. #6
    Pic of turret positions.

    I forgot to include that I'm on a u4000 with p300sa control...

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    285

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    How can i use tool nose radius compendation function for higher than 96 tool.
    This sample format is
    TL=05210210 BT=0 M602
    05 is tool index position
    210 is the tool/offset number
    where is nose radius?
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    285

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    is possible to use TNRC when many chip active?
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    2794

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    hy kurmay, T* ( L D S ) may execute different arguments; try this :

    Code:
     type 1 : T* ee rr tt oo ; 2 2 2 2 ; edge radius turret_station offset
     type 2 : T* ee ttt lll  ; 2 3 3   ; l : r+o, thus a combined link, somehow similar to vetf*
    difference between those 2 types, may be based on how many sets of tool compensation are there : 32 ( standard ), 64, 96, 200, 999 ...

    210 is the tool/offset number
    seems you have more then 200 sets; in such a case, only ' type 2 ' may be available for your machine, considering that the ' optional data spec 200+ sets ' was installed ' normally '

    for more infos, maybe you should check ' section s t and m functions ', inside the programing manual

    What is the meaning of Many chips spec for Multus machines?
    may be similar to the multi-tool spec, for radial turrets; i don't have a multus, but look a bit inside the the programing/special functions manuals; there should also be a copy inside the machine hdd; if you share those, i will take a look

    and what is the difference between MANY CHIPS TOOL , MANY CHIPS 4, MANY CHIPS 8 and MANY CHIPS 12 ?
    not sure about this, but may be the limit of how many ' ee ' sets are available inside the T* comand, thus if you have a tool with 3 edges, you may need ' many chips 4 ' ? also, maybe is possible to avoid this extra function, only by using wise the T comand : for example, i don't have the multi-tool function, but if i would put a tool with 3 edges, on a radial turret, on post 1, i would use T010101 T210121 and T130113

    also, another thing, may be the limit for tool life management ( tool group, tool offset group, etc ) : for example, with 'many chips 4', maybe you are not allowed to declare more then 4 entities in a single management group

    but, to use tool life management, you need to fix 1st the way your T comand works

    kindly
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    2794

    Re: Many chips specification for Multus

    oh, i just had a simpler idea, that does not involve so much digging :
    ... put something in the M spindle, just to have it clamped
    ... mdi T89123456 ( try no repetitive patern, for example different digits ), v1 = veton, v2 = vetln, and maybe v3 = vetlp

    v1 and v2 should tell you how the T comand works / kindly


    ps :
    ... veton :
    offset number of active tool
    ... vetln : tool number of active tool ( turret/station index ) ( TN00 )
    ... vetlp : current used edge number ( Multi-edge Tool Index Opt., Mac/Mult )
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

Similar Threads

  1. Need some rectangular chips cut to replace CF chips that are cracking
    By Lens4Hire in forum Employment Opportunity
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-14-2014, 04:47 PM
  2. Scrap value quesiton, chips vs chunks. Coolant mixed with chips?
    By trialanderror in forum Uncategorised MetalWorking Machines
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-04-2013, 12:08 AM
  3. fanuc 11m specification
    By zoeper in forum Fanuc
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-04-2012, 04:54 PM
  4. Cook your chips to make more chips :)
    By ToMMY2ooo in forum Bending, Forging, Extrusion...
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-07-2004, 07:38 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •