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    Exclamation Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    I recently purchased a Mori TV-300 drill and tap center, which was sitting around for a few years and lost its main board battery. So unfortunately it lost everything, including the parameters and the ladder. For a week now, I've been working with Mori tech support as well as some really helpful people on this forum, but I think I'm coming to a dead end fast. Basically I think I need the ladder backup from a similarly spec'ed machine. I know it's probably a long shot, but I'm desperately hoping someone on here might have access to a TV-30 with the same specs, or could put me in touch with someone that does. My machine has no APC, 20x ATC, 8k spindle, and auto lube. I think the non-APC and 20x ATC specs are particularly important because of the interlocks programmed in the ladder. Getting the backups is a fairly simple procedure which shouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Please let me know if you can help. I know time is money and I'd be more than willing to pitch in for a few cases of beer.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Unfortunately, I don't have one for that machine, however, typically Mori only changed ladders rarely, so I would bet it is the same ladder as an APC machine, just turned off in the Mori side options. Should be a simple parameter change and it will be in the back of the ladder diagram so try to get a copy of that as well. They only made TV30s for a couple years, since the issue with brother trying to sue them.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Thanks for the info! That's really good to know, because I have a ladder back up from a non APC machine with only the ATC as being different, 12x vs 20x. I'll try to grab the ladder diagram from Mori now.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    As long as its not a side mount and you have the drum, should be able to make it work.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    I have the same machine(TV-300 with 20 tool changer, 8k spindle, auto-lube and no APC). I will gladly help if I can.
    www.rc-monster.com

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Thanks rc-monster mike. I think Mori USA may have come through. They sent me a ladder backup from a similar machine, and it looks to be working better. I've got the XYZ axes zero referenced. I think I just need to zero reference the ATC arm, but I think some interlock is preventing me from jogging it via the MPG. I have the procedure documentation from Mori, but it doesn't mention anything about releasing the interlock. Any ideas?

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Bob at Mori has been pretty helpful getting me taken care of whenever something pops up.
    In the ATC menu, pressing 99 and then the input button(and then "Y" input) releases the interlock. You shouldn't need to release the interlock to jog it as far as I know(I manually jog to swap tools occasionally). Basically, put the control in the handle mode, select the C axis and turn the handle.
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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Also, you will want to cycle through the complete rotation as well(don't park it in the middle of the cycle) - the z axis servo load goes up substantially while the drawbar is released(after the tool is pulled from the spindle until the next tool is put back in). If you pause for more than 10 seconds or so in this part of the cycle, the z axis servo will fault and shut down servo power. "Home" is determined by aligning the divots on the chassis and the tool changer flywheel(have to remove the front cover to see the alignment marks).
    www.rc-monster.com

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    Thanks Mike, I just completed the ATC arm zero referencing. I know what you mean about Z axis faulting from the load mid cycle. I had to temporarily turn up parameter 2222 which is the servo overload detection level. Now, I've just got a low lube alarm, because the lube level is actually low. I still can't seem to do a tool change. I've got no tools programmed in yet, would either the low lube alarm or no tools prevent a tool change? I'm just trying a simple T2 M06; in MDI mode.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    It looks like I don't have any macro programs, aren't these needed? Mike, can I bother you for a complete backup of your machine? I think the one the Mori sent me is actually from a TV400 anyways, so it might just be better to start with a backup from the same base machine just to eliminate any variables.

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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    The machine won't do a tool change until you:
    Home the Z axis(G28 Z0)
    Orient the spindle(M19)
    Pre-Call the tool(position tool change carousel)

    So, to install tool 2:

    G28 Z0 M19
    T2
    T2 M06
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    Re: Mori Seiki TV-30 or 300 backup needed

    I don't have the macros set up, either - I do as stated above in the programming, though I will set up the tool change macro some day. The TV400 is essentially the same machine with a larger table as far as I know. Still, I will happily swap parameters with you.
    www.rc-monster.com

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