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    Machine tool warehouse MD001

    Hello Im new here and have just purchased a MD001 IH clone from MTW and it is ready to be shipped, my first question - is it normal for them to email me asking for my Social Security Number before shipping. Seems strange to me.....

    Thanks Stan

    P.S- i will post here the progess of the cnc conversion.

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    yeah, that's pretty wierd.

    Phone number and address should be all they need.

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    I know right..... Im going to call them. Have you bought from them? Has anyone here had that request?

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    If you need some idea's I tried to document everything used in my build thread.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bencht...e_-_md001.html
    Kelly
    www.finescale360.com

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    There is absolutely no reason they need your SSN to purchase a mill unless they are financing it for you. If buying outright with a check, or using your own credit card then there is no reason for them to have it. Just like when Harbor freight asked me the other day for my telephone number when I was paying cash. No reason they need it so they didn't get it. These days you need to be very careful about your personal information. I have 2 friends that have had their identities stolen and it has cost them thousands of dollars fighting all the stuff that came about from it.

    Keep us posted on the mill. I for one am always interested in seeing other peoples projects.

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    I talked to Pat a little while ago and he said it was for the "customs paperwork", maybe but I have ordered lots of things that have had to come through customs from overseas and never have had to give this info. He was very nice about it and said no problem and that he will ship it monday but he felt customs may give me a call.

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    SSN is needed for the customs paper work. I had to do the same thing when I bought my Novakon mill

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    The last 4 is the max you should be giving them, if they need anymore than that, buy from someone else
    Mactec54

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    The US customs office has no right to request your ssn.
    Neither does the IRS.
    But like many, many government agencies, they institute invasive, illegal policies and 99% of the people just go along.
    When someone questions them about it, the person you are talking to probably truly does believe that they are following the rules and you are not.
    Either way, they know that you're making things difficult for them, so guess what. ..

    They are darn sure to make things difficult for you.

    "What package? Must have accidentally been rerouted."

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    It's simple enough to get a definitive answer, rather than a bunch of opinions:

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Customs+SSN

    There you'll find:

    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...irs-number-%2F

    Pretty sure Customs and Border Patrol knows the rules.

    Bottom line: Give them your SSN or EIN, or no shipment.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Interesting. My social security card (issued in 1961) clearly says at the very bottom "For Social Security and Tax purposes only-Not for identification". On numerous occasions I have covered the card and only revealed that statement much to the askers disappointment. Too bad people dont know what was really promised when that piece of socialism crept in.

    Quote Originally Posted by SCzEngrgGroup View Post
    It's simple enough to get a definitive answer, rather than a bunch of opinions:

    Let me google that for you

    There you'll find:

    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...irs-number-%2F

    Pretty sure Customs and Border Patrol knows the rules.

    Bottom line: Give them your SSN or EIN, or no shipment.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    Interesting. My social security card (issued in 1961) clearly says at the very bottom "For Social Security and Tax purposes only-Not for identification". On numerous occasions I have covered the card and only revealed that statement much to the askers disappointment. Too bad people dont know what was really promised when that piece of socialism crept in.
    The thing is, they are using it for tax purposes. Import tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    Interesting. My social security card (issued in 1961) clearly says at the very bottom "For Social Security and Tax purposes only-Not for identification". On numerous occasions I have covered the card and only revealed that statement much to the askers disappointment. Too bad people dont know what was really promised when that piece of socialism crept in.
    new cards no longer say that anymore either.

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    Should have checked but was not aware that Machine Tool Warehouse was a Canadian company. Importing you would need to provide SSN for customs, unless the price is below a certain threshold. Not sure what a MD001 costs or what the threshold is, but if there is a way of not having to provide personal information, I would find it.

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    Stan, I am also waiting for my MD001.
    So far Pat has only asked if I wanted a separate 3 phase motor since the factory did not properly configure my machine.

    I am presently looking for some plans or ideas for a full flood enclosure. What are you planning for yours?

    Oh, with liftgate shipping to outside Austin, TX and a 3 phase motor my cost is a few dollars under 3200 US.

    Paul

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    Viper,

    I am still very new to this so I really have not made up any plans, Im still looking at the ballscrews and servo mounts. As for the enclosure im thinking a metal drain pan and removable plexiglass sides.

    Stan

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    So my wife text me and said the beast has arrived!!!! Now to start the new shopping list. I will most likely build a stand for it first. I see how a lot of members in here seem to actually build cnc machines almost as their hobby, I want to stay away from that as much as possible as I have too many hobbies as it is! I want to build this as simple and reliable as I can, I'm not into setting any records with it I just want a workhorse that I can use to build things for my other hobbies. With that said I have seen that the DMM tech kits seem to be a good choice from what I have read here. I don't want to go direct drive on the ball screws but I'm not sure if I should choose the 400w or 750w servos. It doesn't seem to be a big difference in price, but if what I think I'm reading is that you lose speed and gain torque with the larger servos and vice versa, is this correct? Go easy on me I very new to the CNC world.....

    Thanks in advance,

    Stan

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    With that said I have seen that the DMM tech kits seem to be a good choice from what I have read here. I don't want to go direct drive on the ball screws but I'm not sure if I should choose the 400w or 750w servos. It doesn't seem to be a big difference in price, but if what I think I'm reading is that you lose speed and gain torque with the larger servos and vice versa, is this correct? Go easy on me I very new to the CNC world.....

    With the 400W on the low voltage Dyna2 Drive DC- 48V you have Rated/Max 3,000 RPM Rated Torque 1.28 Max 3.6

    With the 750W motor on the low voltage Dyna2 Drives DC- 48V you have Rated 1000 RPM Max 1050 RPM Rated Torque 2.9 Max 7.2 (The only difference is the input/Drive voltage that makes the RPM change )

    With 750W motor on the high voltage Dyna3 Drive single phase or 3 phase AC 110/220V You have rated 3000 RPM Max 6000 RPM Rated Torque 2.9 Max 7.2, Being used on Dyna3 with single phase the RPM is 3000/3500

    The ( 2 ) 750W motors are the same, just being used on a different drive


    So if you had the 400W Servo Motor for the X & Y axes with a 2:1 ratio, this would give you 1500 RPM
    A 750W for the Z axes it should be a good fit for your machine
    Mactec54

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    Stan, did Pat send you any information regarding how your system was shipped.

    I only received an email after entering several trouble tickets indicating that my MD001 was shipped on Monday.

    I'm in Texas, where are you at?

    Kelly, I've got you 'bookmarked"...nice work....also Arizona Video.

    I'm waiting for the system to arrive before ordering the material for my stand.

    Paul

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    Thanks mactec54! I was thinking about the 400w for the table and the bigger 750 for the head so that helps me a lot.

    Kregan i have read over or thread before and it looks really good! Are you happy with the servo choice you made or would you up the size if you could do it again?

    Vipertx, I m in California andI didn't get any notice from Pat as far as tracking goes. You should receive a phone call from a local company in your area to make the delivery appointment, so if you get a strange number on you caller ID answer the phone!!!....lol

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