[sarus]

i own rover 321r with nc410 "old machine , i know" :bs:
i need to use it usin it propre softwar, let's say only for make whole on one panel for exple: 500mm x 500mmy and thiknesse 20mm.
so if somme one can tell me how to?
step by step, if ther's faq any wher i wish you greats.
nb: i whant to have exemple like that :
1: i should create create file with name xxxxx
2: ishoulde choise toole
3: i should give dimention
4: ..........
5: ..... etc................
pls help me

[sarus]

ok
i have made litle programe , panel with 2 holes
on simulation evry think is ok but when i start the jobe i have message with STOP icon and it say "router config requ" do u know sommething about this message?

[sarus]

all i whant is litle tuto for begining using my machine!
is it so difficule to help me

[majstor76]

I have some nice pdfs, good manuals for Biesse Rover 23, maybe can help. I was operator on one of these

http://picasaweb.google.com/majstors...86733878259570

How does it look on your machine? Similar to one in the picture?

rover 23 is from year 2000, 321r is from 1994

[sarus]

I have some nice pdfs, good manuals for Biesse Rover 23, maybe can help. I was operator on one of these

http://picasaweb.google.com/majstors...86733878259570

How does it look on your machine? Similar to one in the picture?

rover 23 is from year 2000, 321r is from 1994

thank u major76 for reply
i htink the's no mutch difference between the first and the secon, the diffrence is in the softwar part, but if u can send me the pdf manuals i wich u greats.
this is how 321r look like:

http://www.machinerywood.com/files/EMM002b.jpg

[majstor76]

thank u major76 for reply
i htink the's no mutch difference between the first and the secon, the diffrence is in the softwar part, but if u can send me the pdf manuals i wich u greats.
this is how 321r look like:

http://www.machinerywood.com/files/EMM002b.jpg

Im at work now so ill send you files when i got home. Can you send some pictures of software interface to see how it looks like on 321r?

[sarus]

ok as soon as i take photos
thank u

[majstor76]

look for manuals in new thread

[sarus]

look for manuals in new thread

thank u majstor76

[majstor76]

thank u majstor76

Your welcome. I had original manuals for Rover 23 but it consist of about 500 pages, 95% things average user never need. So i used posted manuals which are much better and had them by machine for quick reference. Will they be usefull to you?

Oh, and you could try mail to biesse ask for manuals or to who ever makes controller. Maybe they have versions better for your machine.

[battwell]

sarus. the 410 controller requires each tool to be specified in the tool configurations. every router bit, every drill
have you done this?

you either need to arrange a day of training on the machine or buy the manuals from biesse. you will really struggle without this!

the manual has programming etc in one manual and a full book of fault codes without which you will be lost. it costs roughly £130 from biesse uk. as far as i know its not available on pdf unless anyone has copied it

[sarus]

battwell that write and that wase my problem, and now it's good, but i fond an other problem, the rotation sens of the slot do not turn in the write sens
i'have looked for command witch give me the write sens but i have not fond it any where?
utile somme one give the solution i have inverted two wire of the spindle.

[battwell]

the rotation is set for each tool in tool configurations. they can be selected as clockwise or counterclockwise.
also for drills the drill must be handed, the holder with groove cut rotate opposite to the ones without groove. use the correct hand drills!
have you ensured your 3 phase is correct? ie. check the rotation direction of the vacuum pump..
there should be no need to swap any wires about if vacuum pump is spinning in the right direction.

[sarus]

the rotation is set for each tool in tool configurations. they can be selected as clockwise or counterclockwise.
...................
have you ensured your 3 phase is correct? ie. check the rotation direction of the vacuum pump..
there should be no need to swap any wires about if vacuum pump is spinning in the right direction.

the vaccum pump is turning in the right direction,for the wires i swaped wase from the out of the servo controler of the slot b.
about tool configuration i've looked for sommething like rotation sens or clockwise or somethink else but i have'nt fond that any wher?
thank u battwell

[battwell]

use the tsk button to get your program list on screen
press the window key. (next to tsk key) you should get a list pop up.
cursor down to edit config
tool config. should drop you a list down
you can use config active to change from config1, 2, 3 etc which would be for different tooling options for different jobs etc. program showing hc1 requires you edit config 1 etc. hc2 is config 2 etc
go to router table. set each tool you will use up here, diameter, length, speed, rotation etc. use the long table option to change all parameters.
do the same in drill table
you have 5 slots or tool change positions. each can be edited with correct tool for that slot.
when you finish press exit, type the word CNI and press exit. this should save what you change

setting up the drills is a lot more complex to explain in text here

[battwell]

did your machine come with any tooling installed?
were there any drill bits etc in the holders?
if so, these were likely to already set up in the tooling tables so dont change those items. look at them and use thir configuration for referance