[mactec54]

Hi mactec54

I have got the variable speed control on the VFD so I have left the PD002 as is but the others I have changed and still having no luck. turn the knob fully right and it still only reaches 15600 RPM??
Would I just be better of resetting the VFD with PD013 -8 and going through it all again?

kind regards
Ace8421

PD002 needs to be 0 for the key board to work correct

[Ace8421]

PD002 needs to be 0 for the key board to work correct

if i leave this at 0 the spindle wont go once i push run. also PD003 i can only select a max of 50?

ace8421

[mactec54]

if i leave this at 0 the spindle wont go once i push run. also PD003 i can only select a max of 50?

ace8421

PD002=0 is for the Keypad control, if you are using a different method to control it then yes it needs to be set for how you are controlling the VFD, that can be 1 or 2 as well

You will burn up the spindle if you don't get the settings correct, when you can't do a setting it's best to do a reset and start again, this is what will happen it you don't get the Parameters set correct

Here is the Post to look at, there have been many others also

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindl...oftware-4.html

[killrmodz]

Hey Mactec54, I have a qestion... I've used your configs on post 32. So when I hit run, I hear my spindle start running but the actual physical spindle is not. What could be the issue?

[mactec54]

Hey Mactec54, I have a qestion... I've used your configs on post 32. So when I hit run, I hear my spindle start running but the actual physical spindle is not. What could be the issue?

Don't try it again

There are three things to check, you may not have the Parameters set correct, have a wiring problem or a bad spindle, with the power disconnected , measure at the spindle connector the Pin 1-2 2-3 3-1 they should be around 1.4 ohms, also check Pin 4 to the body of the spindle this is continuity test, this has to be fixed if the Ground is not connected

Post a photo of your wiring

[killrmodz]

Ok, so 1-2, 2-3, 3-1 all had around 4.2-4.5 ohms resistance. With the pin 4 test, do you mean test pin 4 to the body of the spindle with my MM? I did that and received OL. Here is my last setup I tried. I actually had to help it along but it started spinning.
1.5kw VFD
.8kw spindel 4 pole 220v

VFD Config:
PD013 - 8
PD001 - 0
PD002 - 1
PD003 - 400
PD004 - 400
PD005 - 400
PD006 - 2.5
PD007 - .5
PD008 - 220
PD009 - 15
PD010 - 8
PD011 - 120
PD070 - 1
PD071 - 20
PD072 - 400
PD073 - 120
PD141 - 220
PD142 - 5
PD143 - 4
PD144 - 3000

Attached is the pic of my wiring.

[mactec54]

killrmodz

The first thing you have to do is cover your wires to the correct color, this is a code violation , don't show stuff like this on here or someone will wire there VFD the same way and there will be lots of smoke, I guess that the 2 inputs are both Hot, and you have the white as Ground, if you had used the Green as Ground you would only have to cover ( 1 ) wire the way you have it now you have to cover ( 2 ) wires

Also R & T are the best Terminals to use for the input power

The readings if they have been correctly done, shows that there is a problem with the spindle

I saw that your Pole setting is incorrect, all these spindles are 2 Pole

I don't see PD014 & PD015 in you list these are important settings

You use the buzzer on your meter to check the Pin 4 to the body of the Spindle if there is no sound then you have no Ground connection which has to be corrected

This is what has to be done, for you Pin 4

Aso by what you are saying you are short of one Phase, so your wiring may not be correct in your Plug, Buzz each wire U V W to check each is connected correctly, with the power off

[killrmodz]

Yes, the wiring was a mistake that made and I don't show it. I just know how it's wired. Thanks for giving me the heads up. When you say cover I'm assuming you mean the color of the wire connecting to the proper terminal on the VFD no? I'll switch one of the hot wires to the T as your suggestion for power input. I will also do another continuity test for UVW. I'll let you know my results. Truly appreciate it!!!!

[killrmodz]

LOL, first thing I find... a non grounded spindle... gotta figure out how to ground it.

[killrmodz]

Continuity was done for UVW and all looked good. I made a ground for that terminal and made sure it had contact with the body of the spindle. Moved terminal to the T terminal.
New configs i'm going to try:

PD013 - 8
PD001 - 0
PD002 - 1
PD003 - 400
PD004 - 400
PD005 - 400
PD006 - 2.5
PD007 - .5
PD008 - 220
PD009 - 15
PD010 - 8
PD011 - 120
PD014 - 12
PD015 - 12
PD070 - 1
PD071 - 20
PD072 - 400
PD073 - 120
PD141 - 220
PD142 - 5
PD143 - 2
PD144 - 3000

I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks Mactec54!

[killrmodz]

Found the problem. Looks like the wiring for the spindle is noy UVW accurately. I flipped the U and V then bam... we are in business... Strange but it works now.

[mactec54]

Found the problem. Looks like the wiring for the spindle is noy UVW accurately. I flipped the U and V then bam... we are in business... Strange but it works now.

Yes U V W is wired Pin 1=U Pin 2=V Pin 3=W Pin 4 Ground

[mactec54]

Hi mactec54

I have got the variable speed control on the VFD so I have left the PD002 as is but the others I have changed and still having no luck. turn the knob fully right and it still only reaches 15600 RPM??
Would I just be better of resetting the VFD with PD013 -8 and going through it all again?

kind regards
Ace8421

Yes do a Reset, and only set these parameters in this list, there is a Jumper beside the Terminal this also needs to be in the correct position J1 set jumper to 2-3

Huanyang Mactec54
PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )

PD003=400

PD004=400

PD005=400

PD007=20

PD008=220

PD009=15

PD010=8

PD011=120 (Minimum Setting 120)

PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)

PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )

PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps) (Set for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp Max)

(Set for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp Max)

PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 for normal use )

PD72=400

PD73=120

[Al_The_Man]

Providing you have the right three terminals, the rotation of UVW should not matter, the windings are all identical, just means the motor runs in reverse.
Al.

[killrmodz]

Providing you have the right three terminals, the rotation of UVW should not matter, the windings are all identical, just means the motor runs in reverse.
Al.

Yes, so one would think... I followed the information provided for the spindle.



But with the settings provided by mantec, it wouldn't work or spin correctly until I flipped U and V. Either way it works, and turns CW as it should. Now on to connecting to my C32 BoB.

Mantec, real quick. These will be the settings I use for communicating through my BoB to Mach3. Let me know if i'm missing something.

Mach Controls
PD013 - 8
PD001 - 1
PD002 - 1 jumper terminal to the left
PD003 - 400
PD004 - 400
PD005 - 400
PD006 - 2.5
PD007 - 20
PD008 - 220
PD009 - 15
PD010 - 8
PD011 - 120
PD014 - 12
PD015 - 12
PD023 - 1
PD052 - 03 (should be default)
PD070 - 0
PD071 - 20
PD072 - 400
PD073 - 120
PD141 - 220
PD142 - 5
PD143 - 2
PD144 - 3000

[mactec54]

Providing you have the right three terminals, the rotation of UVW should not matter, the windings are all identical, just means the motor runs in reverse.
Al.

The problem is these motors are blocked from being able to run in reverse, so when or if someone wires them incorrect they will try to run but can't, so when he said he helped it to get started, it was either the wiring was incorrect or he was missing a Phase

[mactec54]

Yes, so one would think... I followed the information provided for the spindle.



But with the settings provided by mantec, it wouldn't work or spin correctly until I flipped U and V. Either way it works, and turns CW as it should. Now on to connecting to my C32 BoB.

Mantec, real quick. These will be the settings I use for communicating through my BoB to Mach3. Let me know if i'm missing something.

Mach Controls
PD013 - 8
PD001 - 1
PD002 - 1 jumper terminal to the left
PD003 - 400
PD004 - 400
PD005 - 400
PD006 - 2.5
PD007 - 20
PD008 - 220
PD009 - 15
PD010 - 8
PD011 - 120
PD014 - 12
PD015 - 12
PD023 - 1
PD052 - 03 (should be default)
PD070 - 0
PD071 - 20
PD072 - 400
PD073 - 120
PD141 - 220
PD142 - 5
PD143 - 2
PD144 - 3000

why would you be looking at PD052, this has nothing to do with how you control your spindle, just stick with the Parameters in my list that is all that is needed to run remote or with the Keypad

[mactec54]

Yes, the wiring was a mistake that made and I don't show it. I just know how it's wired. Thanks for giving me the heads up. When you say cover I'm assuming you mean the color of the wire connecting to the proper terminal on the VFD no? I'll switch one of the hot wires to the T as your suggestion for power input. I will also do another continuity test for UVW. I'll let you know my results. Truly appreciate it!!!!

To cover the wires was what you have to do, shrink tubing comes in all colors all you have to do is cover the wrong colored wire with the right color and at both ends, can be done with tape as well, the shrink tubing looks better

[killrmodz]

why would you be looking at PD052, this has nothing to do with how you control your spindle, just stick with the Parameters in my list that is all that is needed to run remote or with the Keypad

To have MACH control it... and my BoB can use the signal for faults. That's why P52 was used. It's set that way by default I just put it there to remind me of that for control through mach.

[killrmodz]

Well, unfortunately I'm still have start issues. Sometimes it will start and sometimes it won't. If i help it along it will start and other times I don't need to assist it. I think what you stated, Mactec, about the resistance being only 1.4 or so does indicate an issue with the spindle. Are there any settings that I could possibly be missing for these no starts/hard starts?