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  1. #21
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    Re: Upgrade Nema 17's to 23? Which stepper driver to use?

    I picked up the KL23H276-30-8A steppers. They may not as much torque, but from some of the back and forth here, they seem to be a solid option.

    I'll check into the HTD series belts. I saw the XL belts are good up to 1/4 hp, and that's pretty much where my machine would be. Having something that can handle more would certainly be more ideal.

    I went with acme rods mostly because of cost, but also because I couldn't find ball screws for a reasonable price that would match my linear movements. Hopefully they'll at least get my started, and I can upgrade them later in the future if I need to. The project has also scaled up a bit from my initial expectations of when I started this project and began buying parts. Sometimes I just need to step back and remember that this is my 1st CNC build and is still a learning process. I built a 3D printer about 4 years ago, so I thought I'd be ready for a build like this, but didn't realize all the nuances and how everything works together. I've really learned a lot.

    But now that I have the 282 oz/in motors with the 10tpi acme screws, what would the most ideal gear ratio (if gearing is used) to drive it? I don't want to do direct drive inline because it'll make the motors stick out the back and sides too far. Also, how much current will I need the 48v psu to be to drive these 4 motors?

    Attached are images of what I'm planning the machine to look like. I still need to upgrade the 3D model from the nema 17's to 23's, but most else is there.

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  2. #22
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    Re: Upgrade Nema 17's to 23? Which stepper driver to use?

    I'd try a 2:1 reduction on all axis.
    Gerry

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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    I'd try a 2:1 reduction on all axis.
    Even on the Z?

  4. #24
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    Re: Upgrade Nema 17's to 23? Which stepper driver to use?

    Yes. Small pulleys are cheap, you can try some different ratios and see what works best.

    If you don't have the screws yet, you'd be better off going with a .2 or .25 lead, which will be much more efficient than the single start screws. You'd gear these 1:1, and get the same effect as the 1:2 gearing with the single start screws, but have more power due to better efficiency.
    3/8 X .200 Right Hand Hi-Lead Lead Screws & Nuts for Power Transmission - Roton Products, Inc.
    3/8 X .250 Right Hand Hi-Lead Lead Screws & Nuts for Power Transmission - Roton Products, Inc.
    3/8 X .375 Right Hand Hi-Lead Lead Screws & Nuts for Power Transmission - Roton Products, Inc.
    Gerry

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  5. #25
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    Re: Upgrade Nema 17's to 23? Which stepper driver to use?

    I am using the 282s on all 3 axes of my sx3 mill. Direct drive on x and y, 2-1 reduction on the 115lb z axis.

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