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  1. #1
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    First Machine Build

    Here is a look at my first CNC machine. It is still a work in progress but it is coming along nicely. I am actually using it to build itself.

    I'll start with a picture of the machine at it is now, and then start at the begining.


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    Umm, what picture?
    Bob

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    Whoaaa, it's invisible, too !!
    "I'm tryin to think but nothin happens" - Curly Howard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodbutcher-59 View Post
    Whoaaa, it's invisible, too !!
    It's not invisible, I sprayed it with clear coat!

    Let me see if I can re-post the picture. I'm new here and climbing up the learning curve.

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    Take your time...no big deal !!!

    Just wanted to bust your chops a little...:cheers:

    Where can I get that clear coat....it works real good!

    Jeff
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    Here is the concept drawing for the first prototype. I decided that I wanted a CNC router made of 8020 extrusions, but to keep the cost of mistakes to a minimum I decided to build the router out of MDF first as a prototype.

    Here is the design I settled on. You will see ideas from an assortment of different machines, mostly gleaned from other builders websites.

    The X and Y axis are driven by #25 roller chain. The Z axis is lead screw. The steppers are 475 oz. with matching drivers from Keling Inc.

    Linear guides are V-bearings on aluminum angle.


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    Here is the first machine. It worked quite well.

    The router is a Porter Cable 690. I was ale to cut MDF and plywood at 60 ipm and aluminum at 3 ipm.

    The first machine worked well enough to help build the second.


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    Here is a look at the new machine as it was going together.

    The gantry is 80/20 extrusion (40-8016 ) carried by legs cut from 1/2" 6061. The carriage and Z axis are guided by V-bearings on V-rails from Pacific Bearing. Their V-rails are hardened steel and are embedded in aluminum extrusions. The bolt right onto the 80/20 extrusion. The V-bearings are mounted on either concentric bushings or eccentric busings for preload adjustment. I tighten the eccentric bushings until I can just barely roll the V-bearing by hand. There is no play in the setup at all.

    This table is made of MDF with the aluminum angle as bearing guides because I was not sure if the gantry legs would be stiff enough not to flex. Now that I know the legs are stiff enough to support the gantry with no flex I am going to build a new table out of 80/20.

    I am considering filling the 80/20 table with epoxy granite to add weight, but I will wait until after the table is built to see if it is necessary.


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    Hi, I will be very interested to see how you like the V bearings. I am considering them for a project as well. What size did you end up using ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryn View Post
    Hi, I will be very interested to see how you like the V bearings. I am considering them for a project as well. What size did you end up using ?
    So far I like the V-rails and bearing very much. They are less expensive than most linear rail and bearing combos. I paid $9.99 each on ebay for the bearings. The rail was about $60 for a 48" IVT from Pacific Bearing. The rail bolted directly to the 80/20 extrusion.

    They are self centering, and the preload is very easy to adjust. They are also very easy to clean and lubricate.

    I don't have the exact specs in front of me, but they are about 1" in diameter and are sized for a 3/8" shaft. The bushings are sized for a 6m bolt.

    I have seen a few commercial machines that use them, including shopbot.

    J

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    Even though I have been watching this site for about a year I am just now getting time to put together my first table. Your design looks like something that would not break the bank but be very functional for a first timer. The majority of my planned work is in wood so I do not think I would need something strong enough to handle metal. Biggst problem is where to start. Your unit looks great.

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    I don't have the exact specs in front of me, but they are about 1" in diameter and are sized for a 3/8" shaft. The bushings are sized for a 6m bolt.
    Virtually all those bearings, regardless of the manufacturer, have the same specs. And the bushing have a 1/4" hole, which is larger than 6mm. You might want to check that, as using 6mm may allow the bushing to move a bit. Although, if they're eccentric, and you have them tight, I guess they can't.
    Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwsadair View Post
    Even though I have been watching this site for about a year I am just now getting time to put together my first table. Your design looks like something that would not break the bank but be very functional for a first timer. The majority of my planned work is in wood so I do not think I would need something strong enough to handle metal. Biggst problem is where to start. Your unit looks great.
    There are a lot of great ideas out there. I got most of my ideas from Build Your Own CNC Router Machine.

    As far as where to start. Start with the spindle. Pick a spindle that is appropriate for the work that you want to be able to do, and then design the machine to carry it over the cutting area that you need.

    I would suggest not using MDF as a building material. Use a good quality harwood pllywood, or better use MDO.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Virtually all those bearings, regardless of the manufacturer, have the same specs. And the bushing have a 1/4" hole, which is larger than 6mm. You might want to check that, as using 6mm may allow the bushing to move a bit. Although, if they're eccentric, and you have them tight, I guess they can't.
    Thanks for the head up Gerry, but don't worry. I ordered the metric bushings from Pacific Bearing.

    J

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    jharvey
    thanks for the info. I actually have an older fixed base variable speed router that I just rebuilt with new bearings and shims. It has a bit of weight to it, but for accuracy and torque I don't think I will find anything better to start with. Now to start planning table size and all the other good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwsadair View Post
    jharvey
    thanks for the info. I actually have an older fixed base variable speed router that I just rebuilt with new bearings and shims. It has a bit of weight to it, but for accuracy and torque I don't think I will find anything better to start with. Now to start planning table size and all the other good stuff.
    Sounds like a good start. Keep us posted on your build.

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    Front View

    Here is a look at the router from the front. I still have a lot of work to do, but it is already running very well and I am using it for work. That accuracy is .010", which works well enough for what I am doing, but I am aiming for .001".


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    Zero Jig

    I built this jig for referencing the control point to zero anywhere on the table. It mounts in a t-slot and has touch plates for X and Y axis.


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    I like that zeroing jig, good idea

  20. #20
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    I was wondering how you used that zeroing jig since the aluminum angle wasn't flush with the corner of the white part.

    This pic explained it (click on thumbnail):



    Which zeroing program are you using?

    (by the way, how did you get a member gallery)

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