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  1. #1
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    New Spindle Automation activity - Help appreciated

    I am hoping the group here can help me with a problem that I am having.

    I am having issue getting my spindle to run correctly whether I select CW or CCW rotation.
    I am just setting up the spindle control for the first time. Up to this point my spindle has been controlled manually at the machine.

    Here is my setup. I have a LittleMachineShop 3900 Mini Mill (Sieg SX2). It has a brushless motor for the spindle so I am using the LittleMachineShop 4213 spindle control board. I have it connected to a CNC4PC C11G BOB. I have attached my XML file for reference as well. Wiring is per diagram Chris provided with the LMS 4213 spindle.

    So using the XML posted I can get the spindle to turn CCW (M4) at whatever speed I choose. All good here. I can shut off the spindle with M5. However, when I go to turn CW (M3) I get no response at the spindle.

    So I started trying to figure out the setup a bit more. I have the following core setup:


    MY SETUP
    Kernal Speed 35,000

    Motor Outputs

    Enabled Step Pin # Dir Pin # Dir Low Step Low Step port Dir Port
    Spindle Y 14 0 X X 2 0


    Output Signals

    Enabled Port# Pin# Active Low
    Output1 Y 2 1 X
    Output2 Y 2 16 X
    ChargePump X 2 17 X

    Spindle Setup

    CW Output1
    CCW Output2

    Spindle motor output - YES
    Step/Dir Motor - YES

    Spindle Motor Tuning

    Steps Per Velocity Acceleration Step Pulse Dir Pulse
    1000 1500 31.25 3 0

    Pin Type Output
    Start/Stop 16 Electromechanical Relay 2
    Forward/Reverse 1 A/C Solid State Relay 1
    AVI (SPEED) 14 Analog Output (0-10V) Spindle

    I based this loosely on the CNC4PC sample XML and the manuals for the C11G and the 4213.

    Now, if I add a Dir Pin of 1 to the spindle setup on Port 2, I can get the spindle to turn CW using the M3, but the M4 will turn for a bit and then stop.
    I would like to be able to use M3 and M4 as necessary for tapping.

    Anyway, I am open to any thoughts and ideas as I am by no means a Mach expert (just learning as I go along).

  2. #2
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    Arturo at CNC4PC was able to get me going. He was very helpful and his products worked perfect, just a lot of user error here

    the setup in Mach needed to be:

    MY SETUP
    Kernal Speed 35,000

    Motor Outputs

    Enabled Step Pin # Dir Pin # Dir Low Step Low Step port Dir Port
    Spindle Y 14 1 X X 2 2


    Output Signals

    Enabled Port# Pin# Active Low
    Output1 Y 2 16 X
    ChargePump X 2 17 X

    Spindle Setup

    CW Output1
    CCW Output1

    Spindle motor output - YES
    Step/Dir Motor - YES

    Spindle Motor Tuning

    Steps Per Velocity Acceleration Step Pulse Dir Pulse
    1000 1500 31.25 3 0

    Pin Type Output
    Start/Stop 16 Electromechanical Relay 2
    Forward/Reverse 1 A/C Solid State Relay 1
    AVI (SPEED) 14 Analog Output (0-10V) Spindle

  3. #3
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    Dont worry, you werent the first. I too have had the pleasure of a personal call from a few vendors here on the Zone and Mach including Arturo. Stand up people and all got me going.

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