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  1. #1
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    spotdrill program stops for no reason?

    made a simple spotdrill program below, now the spotting works fine its just when it gets to line N35 it stops, im sending this program from my desktop, you watch the screen on the machine and there is nothing after N35? it just stops after it spots X-4.6121? is this a comunications error? i tried sending a toolpath from a different part and it was a long program and it worked fine? am i doing something really stupid? thanks for any help guys.

    machine is a 30-16 1994 fadalHT

    O0002
    %
    N10 G91G28Z0
    N11 G90G0G54X0.Y0.
    N12 M6T4
    N13 E1
    G0G40G49G80
    N14 S4200M3
    N15 G0G43Z.6H4
    N16 X12.9375Y-1.011
    N17 G98G81X12.9375Y-1.011Z-.077R0.0F10.0
    N18 X12.4121
    N19 X10.9875
    N20 X10.4621
    N21 X9.0375
    N22 X8.5121
    N23 X7.0875
    N24 X6.5621
    N25 X5.1375
    N26 X4.6121
    N27 X3.1875
    N28 X2.6621
    N29 X1.2375
    N30 X.7121
    N31 X-.7121
    N32 X-1.2375
    N33 X-2.6621
    N34 X-3.1875
    N35 X-4.6121
    N36 X-5.1375
    N37 X-6.5621
    N38 X-7.0875
    N39 X-8.5121
    N40 X-9.0375
    N41 X-10.4621
    N42 X-10.9875
    N43 X-12.4121
    N44 X-12.9375
    N45 X-13.23Y.53
    N46 X-12.12
    N47 X-11.28
    N48 X-10.17
    N49 X-9.33
    N50 X-8.22
    N51 X-7.38
    N52 X-6.27
    N53 X-5.43
    N54 X-4.32
    N55 X-3.48
    N56 X-2.37
    N57 X-1.53
    N58 X-.42
    N59 X.42
    N60 X1.53
    N61 X2.37
    N62 X3.48
    N63 X4.32
    N64 X5.43
    N65 X6.27
    N66 X7.38
    N67 X8.22
    N68 X9.33
    N69 X10.17
    N70 X11.28
    N71 X12.12
    N72 X13.23
    N73 G80Z4.
    G90H0Z0
    M0

  2. #2
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    Renumber the progam you left one line number out between n13 and n14

    Also make sure you have no comma in the program. this pc I have is too small so I cant see if there all periods or not.


    Usually on a canned drilling cycle if your missing a line number or they are out of sequence you have problems however I always found that to to be true after the canned cycle. but it might be worth a try anyhow.
    lets say your next tool has some of the same line numbers in it, it will sometimes jump to that next line number skipping the ones in the tool your running..

    I scrapped a good drill chuck becuase of that mistake a while ago, drill chucks dont like to be used as endmills

  3. #3
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    you also left out 2 line numbers on the bottom too make sure you add those as well
    and there is a % after your program number this needs to be before.
    told you I was blind, I am seeing this stuff after I replied
    also at the end your missing G00 numbers at the end
    heres what it should look like
    also you have a g54 and a E1 you only need a E1 or a G54 depending on what format your using.
    not to be an ass but your program is very sloppy. I will show you how mine is
    again I am not trying to be an ass

    %
    O0002
    N10 G91G28Z0
    N11 G90G0G54X0.Y0.
    N12 M6T4
    N13 E1
    N13.5G0G40G49G80
    N14 S4200M3
    N15 G0G43Z.6H4
    N16 X12.9375Y-1.011
    N17 G98G81X12.9375Y-1.011Z-.077R0.0F10.0
    N18 X12.4121
    N19 X10.9875
    N20 X10.4621
    N21 X9.0375
    N22 X8.5121
    N23 X7.0875
    N24 X6.5621
    N25 X5.1375
    N26 X4.6121
    N27 X3.1875
    N28 X2.6621
    N29 X1.2375
    N30 X.7121
    N31 X-.7121
    N32 X-1.2375
    N33 X-2.6621
    N34 X-3.1875
    N35 X-4.6121
    N36 X-5.1375
    N37 X-6.5621
    N38 X-7.0875
    N39 X-8.5121
    N40 X-9.0375
    N41 X-10.4621
    N42 X-10.9875
    N43 X-12.4121
    N44 X-12.9375
    N45 X-13.23Y.53
    N46 X-12.12
    N47 X-11.28
    N48 X-10.17
    N49 X-9.33
    N50 X-8.22
    N51 X-7.38
    N52 X-6.27
    N53 X-5.43
    N54 X-4.32
    N55 X-3.48
    N56 X-2.37
    N57 X-1.53
    N58 X-.42
    N59 X.42
    N60 X1.53
    N61 X2.37
    N62 X3.48
    N63 X4.32
    N64 X5.43
    N65 X6.27
    N66 X7.38
    N67 X8.22
    N68 X9.33
    N69 X10.17
    N70 X11.28
    N71 X12.12
    N72 X13.23
    N73 G80G00Z4.
    N74 G90G00H0Z0
    N75 M0

  4. #4
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    heres one for a spot drill

    N99 M6 T17 ( 0.500 DIA. SPOT DRILL )
    N100 G0 G17 G40 G80 G90 E11
    N101 M3 M8 S8500
    N102 X0.0 Y0.0
    N103 G8
    N104 Z0.3 H17
    N105 G98 G82 Z-0.15 R+0.3 F15.0
    N106 X-17.5 Y-0.3
    N107 X-14.0
    N108 X-10.5
    N109 X-8.5
    N110 X-5.0
    N111 X-1.5
    N112 X0.5
    N113 X4.0
    N114 X7.5
    N115 X9.5
    N116 X13.0
    N117 X16.5
    N118 Y-3.7
    N119 X13.0
    N120 X9.5
    N121 X7.5
    N122 X4.0
    N123 X0.5
    N124 X-1.5
    N125 X-5.0
    N126 X-8.5
    N127 X-10.5
    N128 X-14.0
    N129 X-17.5
    N130 X0.0 Y4.0
    N131 G80 G40 M5 M9
    N132 G9
    N133 G49 Z0.0
    N134 M01

  5. #5
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    your not being an ass at all, im very happy to get such fast responces, i did your changes and it does not work, im going to try your program, i will get back, thanks

    ps im using format 2

  6. #6
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    so i modified your program that worked on my machine for me:
    %
    O0010
    N99 M6 T4
    N100 G0 G17 G40 G80 G90 E1
    N101 M3 S3500
    N102 X0.0 Y0.0
    N103 G8
    N104 Z.6 H4
    N105 X12.9375 Y-1.011
    N106 G98 G81 Z-.077 R+.05F15.0
    N107 X12.4121
    N108 X10.9875
    N109 X10.4621
    N110 X9.0375
    N111 X8.5121
    N112 X7.0875
    N113 X6.5621
    N114 X5.1375
    N115 X4.6121
    N116 X3.1875
    N117 X2.6621
    N118 X1.2375
    N119 X.7121
    N120 X-.7121
    N121 X-1.2375
    N122 X-2.6621
    N123 X-3.1875
    N124 X-4.6121 (IT STOPS HERE!)
    N125 X-5.1375
    N126 X-6.5621
    N127 X-7.0875
    N128 X-8.5121
    N129 X-9.0375
    N130 X-10.4621
    N131 X-10.9875
    N132 X-12.4121
    N133 X-12.9375
    N134 X-13.23 Y.53
    N135 X-12.12
    N136 X-11.28
    N137 X-10.17
    N138 X-9.33
    N139 X-8.22
    N140 X-7.38
    N141 X-6.27
    N142 X-5.43
    N143 X-4.32
    N144 X-3.48
    N145 X-2.37
    N146 X-1.53
    N147 X-.42
    N148 X.42
    N149 X1.53
    N150 X2.37
    N151 X3.48
    N152 X4.32
    N153 X5.43
    N154 X6.27
    N155 X7.38
    N156 X8.22
    N157 X9.33
    N158 X10.17
    N159 X11.28
    N160 X12.12
    N161 X13.23
    N162 G80 G40 M5
    N163 G9.
    N164 G49 Z0.
    N165 M01


    and it still stops at the same line! thanks again for any help

  7. #7
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    can you just load that program into the machine and run it form the machine
    instead of dnc'ing it?

  8. #8
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    i would rather find out why its not working with dnc since i never use the control on the machine

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delw View Post
    you also left out 2 line numbers on the bottom too make sure you add those as well
    and there is a % after your program number this needs to be before.
    told you I was blind, I am seeing this stuff after I replied
    also at the end your missing G00 numbers at the end
    heres what it should look like
    also you have a g54 and a E1 you only need a E1 or a G54 depending on what format your using.
    not to be an ass but your program is very sloppy. I will show you how mine is
    again I am not trying to be an ass
    ok i ran the program you modified with mine and it worked, im spotting different size holes and when i canceled the first cancycle with g80 its doing what it was doing before, its now reading the next cancycle and spotting about 5 holes then stops again. can i send anyone my full program to look at? thanks guys

  10. #10
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    im posting this program here, im off to my real job (im doing this at home), if someone could look at this it would help me out of a jam, thanks again guys

    %
    O0002
    N99 G91G28Z0
    N100 G90G0G54X0.Y0.
    N101 M6T4
    N102 E1
    N103 .5G0G40G49G80
    N104 S4200M3
    N105 G0G43Z.6H4
    N106 X12.9375Y-1.011
    N107 G98G81X12.9375Y-1.011Z-.077R0.0F10.0
    N108 X12.4121
    N109 X10.9875
    N110 X10.4621
    N111 X9.0375
    N112 X8.5121
    N113 X7.0875
    N114 X6.5621
    N115 X5.1375
    N116 X4.6121
    N117 X3.1875
    N118 X2.6621
    N119 X1.2375
    N120 X.7121
    N121 X-.7121
    N122 X-1.2375
    N123 X-2.6621
    N124 X-3.1875
    N125 X-4.6121
    N126 X-5.1375
    N127 X-6.5621
    N128 X-7.0875
    N129 X-8.5121
    N130 X-9.0375
    N131 X-10.4621
    N132 X-10.9875
    N133 X-12.4121
    N134 X-12.9375
    N135 X-13.23Y.53
    N136 X-12.12
    N137 X-11.28
    N138 X-10.17
    N139 X-9.33
    N140 X-8.22
    N141 X-7.38
    N142 X-6.27
    N143 X-5.43
    N144 X-4.32
    N145 X-3.48
    N146 X-2.37
    N147 X-1.53
    N148 X-.42
    N149 X.42
    N150 X1.53
    N151 X2.37
    N152 X3.48
    N153 X4.32
    N154 X5.43
    N155 X6.27
    N156 X7.38
    N157 X8.22
    N158 X9.33
    N159 X10.17
    N160 X11.28
    N161 X12.12
    N162 X13.23
    N163 G80
    (.261)
    N164 Y.310X13.056
    N165 G98G81Z-.335R-.270F8.
    N166 X12.294
    N167 X11.106
    N168 X10.344
    N169 X9.156
    N170 X8.394
    N171 X7.206 (works to here then just stops!)
    N172 X6.444
    N173 X5.256
    N174 X4.494
    N175 X3.306
    N176 X2.544
    N177 X1.356
    N178 X.594
    N179 X-.594
    N180 X-1.356
    N181 X-2.544
    N182 X-3.306
    N183 X-4.494
    N184 X-5.256
    N185 X-6.444
    N186 X-7.206
    N187 X-8.394
    N188 X-9.156
    N189 X-10.344
    N190 X-11.106
    N191 X-12.294
    N192 X-13.056
    N193 Y.195 X-12.675
    N194 X-10.725
    N195 X-8.775
    N196 X-6.825
    N197 X-4.875
    N198 X-2.925
    N199 X-.975
    N200 X.975
    N201 X2.925
    N202 X4.875
    N203 X6.825
    N204 X8.775
    N205 X10.725
    N206 X12.675
    N207 G80
    (.188 thry-.238 cb)
    N208 X12.825 Y.53
    N209 G98G81Z-.335R-.270F8.
    N210 X12.525
    N211 X10.875
    N212 X10.575
    N213 X8.925
    N214 X8.625
    N215 X6.975
    N216 X6.675
    N217 X5.025
    N218 X4.725
    N219 X3.075
    N220 X2.775
    N221 X1.125
    N222 X.825
    N223 X-.825
    N224 X-1.125
    N225 X-2.775
    N226 X-3.075
    N227 X-4.725
    N228 X-5.025
    N229 X-6.675
    N230 X-6.975
    N231 X-8.625
    N232 X-8.925
    N233 X-10.575
    N234 X-10.875
    N235 X-12.525
    N236 X-12.825
    N237 G80
    (.322)
    N238 Y.792 X-13.049
    N239 G98G81Z-.335R-.270F8.
    N240 X-12.301
    N241 X-11.099
    N242 X-10.351
    N243 X-9.149
    N244 X-8.401
    N245 X-7.199
    N246 X-6.451
    N247 X-5.249
    N248 X-4.501
    N249 X-3.299
    N250 X-2.551
    N251 X-1.349
    N252 X-.601
    N253 X.601
    N254 X1.349
    N255 X2.551
    N256 X3.299
    N257 X4.501
    N258 X5.249
    N259 X6.451
    N260 X7.199
    N261 X8.401
    N262 X9.149
    N263 X10.351
    N264 X11.099
    N265 X12.301
    N266 X13.049
    N267 G80
    (.128 THRU, .278 1.105 DEEP)
    N268 X12.675 Y.945
    N269 G98G81Z-.335R-.270F8.
    N270 X10.725
    N271 X8.775
    N272 X6.825
    N273 X4.875
    N274 X2.925
    N275 X.975
    N276 X-.975
    N277 X-2.925
    N278 X-4.875
    N279 X-6.825
    N280 X-8.775
    N281 X-10.725
    N282 X-12.675
    N283 G80 G40 M5 M9
    N284 G9
    N285 G49 Z0.0
    N286 M6 T6
    (.07 DRILL)
    N287 G0G40G49G80
    N288 S4000M3
    N289 G01Z.6H6F200.
    (.07)
    N290 X12.9375Y-1.011
    N291 G98G73Q.030Z-.36R.03F5.0
    N292 X12.4121
    N293 X10.9875
    N294 X10.4621
    N295 X9.0375
    N296 X8.5121
    N297 X7.0875
    N298 X6.5621
    N299 X5.1375
    N300 X4.6121
    N301 X3.1875
    N302 X2.6621
    N303 X1.2375
    N304 X.7121
    N305 X-.7121
    N306 X-1.2375
    N307 X-2.6621
    N308 X-3.1875
    N309 X-4.6121
    N310 X-5.1375
    N311 X-6.5621
    N312 X-7.0875
    N313 X-8.5121
    N314 X-9.0375
    N315 X-10.4621
    N316 X-10.9875
    N317 X-12.4121
    N318 X-12.9375
    N319 X-13.23Y.53Z-.565
    N320 X-12.12
    N321 X-11.28
    N322 X-10.17
    N323 X-9.33
    N324 X-8.22
    N325 X-7.38
    N326 X-6.27
    N327 X-5.43
    N328 X-4.32
    N329 X-3.48
    N330 X-2.37
    N331 X-1.53
    N332 X-.42
    N333 X.42
    N334 X1.53
    N335 X2.37
    N336 X3.48
    N337 X4.32
    N338 X5.43
    N339 X6.27
    N340 X7.38
    N341 X8.22
    N342 X9.33
    N343 X10.17
    N344 X11.28
    N345 X12.12
    N346 X13.23
    N347 G80
    N348 G91G28Z0.
    N349 M6 T8
    N350 M0
    (.2610 DRILL)
    N351 G0G40G49G80
    N352 S4000M3
    N353 G01Z.6H8F200.
    N354 Y.310X13.056
    N355 G98G83Z-1.105Q.11R-.270F8.
    N356 X12.294
    N357 X11.106
    N358 X10.344
    N359 X9.156
    N360 X8.394
    N361 X7.206
    N362 X6.444
    N363 X5.256
    N364 X4.494
    N365 X3.306
    N366 X2.544
    N367 X1.356
    N368 X.594
    N369 X-.594
    N370 X-1.356
    N371 X-2.544
    N372 X-3.306
    N373 X-4.494
    N374 X-5.256
    N375 X-6.444
    N376 X-7.206
    N377 X-8.394
    N378 X-9.156
    N379 X-10.344
    N380 X-11.106
    N381 X-12.294
    N382 X-13.056
    N383 Y195 X-12.675
    N384 X-10.725
    N385 X-8.775
    N386 X-6.825
    N387 X-4.875
    N388 X-2.925
    N389 X-.975
    N390 X.975
    N391 X2.925
    N392 X4.875
    N393 X6.825
    N394 X8.775
    N395 X10.725
    N396 X12.675
    N397 G80
    N398 G91G28Z0.
    N399 M6 T10
    N400 M0
    (.238 DRILL)
    N401 G0G40G49G80
    N402 S4000M3
    N403 G01Z.6H10F200.
    N404 X12.825 Y.53
    N405 G98G83Q.11Z-1.110R-.270F8.
    N406 X12.525
    N407 X10.875
    N408 X10.575
    N409 X8.925
    N410 X8.625
    N411 X6.975
    N412 X6.675
    N413 X5.025
    N414 X4.725
    N415 X3.075
    N416 X2.775
    N417 X1.125
    N418 X.825
    N419 X-.825
    N420 X-1.125
    N421 X-2.775
    N422 X-3.075
    N423 X-4.725
    N424 X-5.025
    N425 X-6.675
    N426 X-6.975
    N427 X-8.625
    N428 X-8.925
    N429 X-10.575
    N430 X-10.875
    N431 X-12.525
    N432 X-12.825
    N433 G80
    N434 G91G28Z0.
    N435 M6 T12
    N436 M0
    (.322 DRILL)
    N437 G0G40G49G80
    N438 S4000M3
    N439 G01Z.6H12F200.
    N440 Y.792 X-13.049
    N441 G98G83Q.11Z-1.110R-.270F8.
    N442 X-12.301
    N443 X-11.099
    N444 X-10.351
    N445 X-9.149
    N446 X-8.401
    N447 X-7.199
    N448 X-6.451
    N449 X-5.249
    N450 X-4.501
    N451 X-3.299
    N452 X-2.551
    N453 X-1.349
    N454 X-.601
    N455 X.601
    N456 X1.349
    N457 X2.551
    N458 X3.299
    N459 X4.501
    N460 X5.249
    N461 X6.451
    N462 X7.199
    N463 X8.401
    N464 X9.149
    N465 X10.351
    N466 X11.099
    N467 X12.301
    N468 X13.049
    N469 G80
    N470 G91G28Z0.
    N471 M6 T14
    N472 M0
    N473 G0G40G49G80
    N474 S4000M3
    N475 G01Z.6H14F200.
    (.375 DRILL)
    N476 X12.675 Y.945
    N477 G98G73Q.1Z-.870R-.270F8.
    N478 X10.725
    N479 X8.775
    N480 X6.825
    N481 X4.875
    N482 X2.925
    N483 X.975
    N484 X-.975
    N485 X-2.925
    N486 X-4.875
    N487 X-6.825
    N488 X-8.775
    N489 X-10.725
    N490 X-12.675
    N491 G80
    N492 G91G28Z0.
    N493 M6 T16
    N494 M0
    (.188 DRILL)
    N495 G0G40G49G80
    N496 S4000M3
    N497 G01Z.6H16F200.
    N498 X12.825 Y.53
    N499 G98G83Q.080Z-1.3R-1.05F6.
    N500 X12.525
    N501 X10.875
    N502 X10.575
    N503 X8.925
    N504 X8.625
    N505 X6.975
    N506 X6.675
    N507 X5.025
    N508 X4.725
    N509 X3.075
    N510 X2.775
    N511 X1.125
    N512 X.825
    N513 X-.825
    N514 X-1.125
    N515 X-2.775
    N516 X-3.075
    N517 X-4.725
    N518 X-5.025
    N519 X-6.675
    N520 X-6.975
    N521 X-8.625
    N522 X-8.925
    N523 X-10.575
    N524 X-10.875
    N525 X-12.525
    N526 X-12.825
    N527 G80
    N528 G91G28Z0.
    N529 M6 T18
    N530 M0
    (BLOW OUT .07 DRILL HOLES!)
    (2-56 TAP)
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  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1389
    your programs really messed up, you have a few things missing.

    email it to [email protected] and I will fix it for you
    Delw

  12. #12
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    Mar 2006
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    54
    Are you posting this or are you doing this on some sort of editer (note pad)?

  13. #13
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    Rob--
    If you email me the file that is in your control as an attachment, I'll look at it. I think you may have some hidden characters embedded. I can look for these items anad get rid of them for you.

    Neal [email protected]

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
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    yes im using notepad, someone informed me that this is no good and may be my problem, thanks delw for all your help

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